One of the leaders of the "DPR" Denis Pushilin said that in Minsk he had heart-to-heart talks with ex-president of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma who complained on Western conspiracy against him. The so-called speaker of the "DPR parliament" told that on one of the separatist TV channels.
According to Pushilin, during the negotiations of the contact group on the resolution of the conflict in Donbass he finds time and opportunity to talk with Leonid Kuchma, they say, about life - about his past presidential life.
"Now I have an opportunity to clarify some moments with him (Kuchma OstroV)... Being in Minsk, we talk and not only about flfillment of the Minsk agreements. As a simple man watching the whole government (at the turn of the century - OstroV) from the TV screen, I'm interested to ask questions in some moments: "What did you follow, what did you think then, what were the preconditions," - told Pushilin.
According to him, from Leonid Kuchma’s frank answers, it follows that then Ukrainian President was morally broken as a result of the special operation of the West after the murder of Georgiy Gongadze.
"And I understood for myself that he had been broken at the end (of the presidential term - OstroV). At the beginning of his presidency he had some kind of normal ideas, then they were all crushed by the West, that is, essentially he was put on the hook with Gongadze," - told Pushilin supposedly the essence of his conversations with Leonid Kuchma.
Reference. Georgy Gongadze is a Ukrainian journalist of Georgian origin, the founder and first editor in chief of Ukrainska Pravda internet newspaper. Gongadze was kidnapped and murdered in 2000. The circumstances of his death have become a pretext for the protests against President Leonid Kuchma. During tape scandal records were made public where people with voices similar to ones of Leonid Kuchma, Volodymyr Lytvyn and other senior officials are discussing an option to neutralize the unwanted journalist.